%0 Journal Article %A Garti, Shimon %A Shelah, Saharon %T Tiltan and Superclub %J Comptes Rendus. Mathématique %D 2023 %P 853-861 %V 361 %N G5 %I Académie des sciences, Paris %U https://numdam.org/articles/10.5802/crmath.434/ %R 10.5802/crmath.434 %G en %F CRMATH_2023__361_G5_853_0